We’re best friends and co-authors having unfiltered conversations about the things you care about. We talk about friendship, relationships, parenting, writing, publishing and everything in between. No topic is off limits. TMI isn’t in our vocabulary. Although we do reserve the right to Delete That Later. We’re so glad you’re here!

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we fight so you don’t have to

Best friends and co-authors of seven novels, including the Amazon Charts bestselling book, The Good Widow, Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke use biting humor to share lessons they’ve learned during their thirty-year friendship. They talk about their ups—and especially their downs. Including sharing the brutal truth about the rejection they’ve faced in the publishing industry. Listen in and hear for yourself why Liz and Lisa have also cultivated a passionate following on social media. They tell it like it is. They laugh—or in Liz’s case, snort—at themselves. They aren’t afraid to expose their own flaws and failures as they navigate being business partners and friends while juggling motherhood, their families and other friendships. In a nutshell: They fight so you don’t have to.