Podcast :

we fight so you don’t have to

Liz Fenton & Lisa Steinke aren’t just best friends—they’re battle-tested co-authors of nine novels, including the Amazon Charts bestseller The Good Widow. For over thirty years, they’ve laughed, cried, and clinked wine glasses through life’s highs and brutal lows. Now, they’re bringing it all to the mic.

With sharp wit and zero filter, Liz and Lisa dive into the messy, the hilarious, and the heartbreaking parts of life. They share hard-earned lessons of friendship, publishing, motherhood, and everything in between. No topic is off-limits: rejection, failure, family drama, business blowups—you name it, they’ve survived it (sometimes barely).

Liz snorts when she laughs. Lisa rolls her eyes. They don’t sugarcoat. They don’t hold back. They argue, they forgive, they laugh—and they remind you that the best friendships can survive anything.

In short? They fight so you don’t have to.

Find the podcast wherever you listen—and if you’ve got questions, stories, or ideas, email them with “PODCAST” in the subject line.

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